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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:59 pm
by drunken jesus
i'll add another point
look at scientology and how popular it has gotten in a short amount of time. what the religion believes in is completely ridiculous right? but even in this day and age with the intelligence and technology in the world it still has a huge following cause it explains life so people don't have to think about it, but it is shunned by religious people cause it ain't the ideology thats popular. well imagine 2000 years ago with an even more primative society, back then it was just as ridiculous as scientology is today. but the people were simpler and quickly started to believe the storys they were being told and the population was alot smaller so the message was easier to spread and people loved the idea because it explained life so they wouldn't have to think about it. so pretty soon kings and rulers started accepting it and realized they could use it to their advantage to gain popularity and support
now think about the present. religion is still used by politicians and leaders for the same purpose
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:21 am
by 8th
but how are you going to think i'm an idiot for not believing in religion when i gave you all the reasons.
^your quote
It however does not make me 'a fucking retard' because I believe in God. I dont think your a retard for not.
^what i said.
I dont think your stupid for not believing in God, thats my point. and im not going to respond your points point by point because what will that prove? Yes religion has been corrupted, and yes religion has been used by some to achieve there personal goals. thats not the religion that is corrupt, that is the people. I know what i believe and thats all that i need. Im not going to sit here and try to convince you to believe, thats not my job.
i implied i'm smarter, yeah.
I CAN NOT STAND that attitude. I dont think im smarter than those that dont believe, so why do you feel you are smarter than those that do?
I have Faith. You clearly dont understand that. And thats fine. Maybe one day you'll find religion and then you will understand.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:50 am
by drunken jesus
i understand faith, but i don't understand BLIND FAITH
you say religion has been corrupted but then go back to contradict yourself saying its not the religion thats been corrupt its the people lmao
i don't understand how someone can believe in something they know little to nothing about beyond what they've been told
its sad when i don't believe in christianity and yet i know more about it than you do.
you apparently ARE FUCKING RETARDED cause you didn't comprehend this
"It however does not make me 'a fucking retard' because I believe in God. I dont think your a retard for not.
^what i said.
I dont think your stupid for not believing in God, thats my point. "
do you know how corrupt and manipulated the bible has been? i can understand believing in god, but i can't understand someone believing in organized religion with all its contradictions, flaws, and manipulations
^what i said previous to the line you quoted of mine, a belief or faith in god is understandable but a blind faith in a corrupt religion that one doesn't have any knowledge about its creation is stupid, if you're going to believe in something at least make sure you know what its about and have a reason why you believe in it rather than blind faith, i implyed i'm smarter than those with BLIND faith, HOW AM I NOT? i know more about their religion than they do
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:20 am
by 8th
you seem like an anger person.
I am catholic, but I dont really go to church. I PERSONALLY believe you can be a good catholic by having a close relationship with God and praying in your own home. So your attacking of organized religion does not really affect me. You can study all you want about what you consider Christianity. You dont understand my relationship with God, or many others. So proving that their are bad people hiding behind the cloak of religion isn't proving much.
you say religion has been corrupted but then go back to contradict yourself saying its not the religion thats been corrupt its the people lmao
Religion as in organized religion has been corrupt by some people in different times. But as I said, it's not the religion that is corrupt, it is the people. You know what i meant, dont be a dick in order to try to make me seems stupid.
but continue calling me A FUCKING RETARD if you would like. I'll pray for you.

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:23 am
by drunken jesus
when they change the religion it is obviously the religion that is corrupt
i'm not an angry person actually i'm quite the opposite, i just believe an educated opinion is alot more intelligent than an uninformed opinion
you continue to not comprehend my point, when have i said its stupid to have a relationship with god?, i said following organized religions that are corrupt is stupid as fuck
and again i'm not athiest and haven't said anything that would imply i am
btw catholicism is the most corrupt and altered branch of christianity, go look it up
i'm not trying to convert people to my way of thinking i'm simply trying to get people to actually learn something, i don't give a fuck if you think i'm wrong or don't believe me, GO LOOK SHIT UP i haven't lied or exagerrated anything i've said.
heres another analogy, blind followers of religion are like blind followers of a dictatorship, its the popular consensus that those in power are right and just, when in most cases its hardly the truth.
i believe following something you know nothing about and don't question its motives and sincerity is foolish and ignorant, hence why democracys are better cause they can FREELY question their leaders without being outcasted or worse
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:14 am
by 8th
when have i said its stupid to have a relationship with god?
i never said you did.
this is a pointless argument. I do appreciate the fact you seem to know what your talking about. You probably do know more about organized religion then me. And i know the things your saying are true. It does not change what i believe in one iota. People will always corrupt everything, its the nature of human beings. People will use whatever they can to forward their personal goals. To me, that doesn't say anything about the religion, that says something about people. We clearly disagree, thats fine.
have a good weekend.