Contradictions in Religion

[complexity]

http://www.answering-christianity.com/1 ... ctions.htm

Christians

http://www.contenderministries.org/isla ... ctions.php

Muslims
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These are ones that dont even take a elementary education to see

[Subsist]

from two random ass sites. great.

[complexity]

Dude. It doesn't take someone was a PHD to find passages in the scriptures that contradict eachother.

Edit: just wait if me and killah might do a back n forth. that is going to make you kill yourself.

[complexity]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution - More Reasons Evolution Is True

First of all I want to make a point to subsist who believes evolution is not true. The theory of evolution only has the prefix theory because of the ramifications if it was removed. Their is substancial evidence to prove that evolution is true. For example all living things HAVE PARENTS! Isn't that a shock. Did you come out of the ground? Were you born in from a road. What about extiction. That helps prove evolution is true. Just a little bit. Billions of years ago certain species didn't exist! Billion years from now humans wont exist!
This has nothing to be with religion its fact. This is backed up by billions of years of evidence. Processes repeat themselves. God doesn't come down and bring armagedon every few thousand years.

As for contradictions in scriptures. Thats just obvious. You think these documents were written from god himself? If not you should realize. Of course there is going to be an absurd amount of contradictions. None of it can be taking literally.

The reason religion is still so widely accepted. Is because the implications if it weren't. People would have no alternatives. They would have no real morals. Which goes into all killahs views on this matter which he will relay later. They have no alternatives because of ignorance. They can't think on their own. Tell me that isn't true. You might need a little bit of psychological help. Religion just thinks for you.

Religion is hypocritcal? You wouldn't think. These scriptures were all written with one point. To make you act how they want. Hence people now will twist religion to fit their needs. So in subsists case his teacher is going to tell him evolution is bullshit. It was bullshit because he is a creationist. Who believes that god created every aspect noted in the particular reading in a certain way. Christians will twist the religion to make it so homosexuals for instance can't be part of a normal society. These are people twisting the religion, interpreting it how they want. To make you follow them.

See they call scientology a cult. In reality every religion is a cult.

I'm an agnostic. That is my word. Killah preach.

[Subsist]

"For example all living things HAVE PARENTS! Isn't that a shock. Did you come out of the ground? Were you born in from a road. What about extiction. That helps prove evolution is true. Just a little bit."
Uhm what if my parents were humans? damn , shocks after shocks.

[complexity]

Lets pretend anna is subsist

Hello, my name is Anna/subsist and i just found out that your offering 50,000 bucks to anyone that can prove that evolution is a lie. Well first of all let me ask you a simple question. Do you belive in evolution? personally i DO NOT!!!!!! There is a very simple , but true answer. God created the heveans and the earth and all living things. you are probably thinking that im another one of those people who think that they know it all, but i dont. but i do know that God created me and that i didnt come from some bubbling mass of chemical soup. now scince i told you what i know, it would be great if you could write back and tell me what you think know.

From: Edward T. Babinski
To: Anna
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004
Subject: Re: Fw: hello Edward

ED: Hello Anna,

A brief note, but if it wasn't for the "bubbling masses of chemical soup" inside the cells of your own body, you wouldn't be alive right now, certainly not physically. And if it wasn't for the simple oxygen atom, drawn in through your nostrils, you'd likewise be unconscious or worse right now.

And in fact, creation keeps evolving...

According to the Bible, God made the stars on the fourth day of creation. Even more remarkable is the fact that He is creating them still, though the latter miracle is considered not worth mentioning by any of the Bible's authors. (I wonder why? The creation of new stars is being chronicled continually in magazines and journals like Astronomy, Sky & Telescope and The Astrophysical Journal, just to name a few.)

And God is still creating new planets (that continue to form out of rings of matter circling stars -- see the above mentioned magazines).

And God is still fusing simple hydrogen atoms together inside stars to create other elements with greater proton and electron numbers (the heaviest known elements are created during super nova explosions of stars).

And God is still creating large multi-cellular organisms out of a single cell that keeps dividing over and over by a process called embryogenesis.

And God is still transforming mere water and inorganic minerals into increasingly larger populations of tiny living microorganisms since those microorganisms live off of mere water and inorganic minerals and turn those inorganic things into more members of their own species. That what keeps the "food chain" going, since all life depends on the daily transformation of the simplest of molecules (water and inorganic minerals) into living microorganisms. So, if you include the food chain leading from the simplest organisms to man, God is still turning inorganic matter into human beings (and turning oxygen molecules into "the breath of life" every time we inhale).

Yet creationists argue that aside from the creation of new stars, new planets, the diversification of elements out of mere hydrogen inside those stars, the turning of simple inorganic matter into an array of living organisms that keep increasing in number and branching off into new species [creationists admit the speciation occurs] -- aside from all of that -- they claim that evolution is "prohibited by the second law of thermodynamics." I'd say they are missing the forest for the trees which by the way, continue to grow from tiny seeds; trees that become forests that continue to reach out and envelop as much of the earth as they can, and whose members continue to branch off (forgive the pun) into new species as they do so.

[Subsist]

Theres not a single proof in what you just posted that humans were once fishes and apes.

[complexity]

Do you want a fossil thrown at your head?

[8th]

evolution does not dis prove religion. The way i look at it is, evolution was Gods plan to prepare the earth for the human race.

[drunken jesus]

The way i look at it is, evolution was Gods plan to prepare the earth for the human race.

^the main reason all religious people are ignorant to reality

no matter what facts are showed to them and no matter what evidence shits on their entire belief system they always have that backup excuse "its gods plan"

do you know how many times your religions have been changed by kings in power to fit their liking?, do you know how much of your religions is just paraphrased shit from other religions and strait up jacked from roman and greek mythology? do you even know your religions weren't even created close to the time all of what was in the books supposedly took place? do you even know how your religions were created? i don't think ya'll have a damn clue cause if you did you wouldn't believe in all the bullshit

primative societys and primative minds need religion, it explains everything for them, so they don't have to think or question anything its all done for them

i'll just give a simple analogy if ya'll don't get this you're fucking retarded, imagine the world as it was say... 500 years ago, no forms of communication besides word of mouth, very primative forms of transcribing words and very very few people that were actually literate in their cultures languages, imagine something big happening say... a hurricane how accurate do you think that news would be traveling from culture to culture until it made it to every one? it wouldn't be understandable at all, even with todays technology messages and happenings still get fucked up when translated into other languages. now thats a mere 500 years ago, imagine 2000 years ago something supposedly happened, then it wasn't published and spread 'till around 5 generations later, and EVEN after that it wasn't widely believed so they CHANGED it and added things to GET MORE PEOPLE to believe it by incorporating their beliefs into it. and you're telling me on the basis of that misconstrewed, made up, plagerized, information thats how you live your life?


and subsist stop talking like you know what the fuck you're talking about, you live in a primitive ass country europe 300 years ago was more developed than your country is now, THEY TELL YOU WHAT YOU"RE ALLOWED TO WATCH, SEE, AND BELIEVE. YOU LIVE IN A COUNTRY OF LEMMINGS. THEY EVEN BAN WEBSITES AND MEDIA OUTLETS SO YOU CAN"T EVEN HAVE HALF A CHANCE OF FORMING YOUR OWN OPINION, and you're telling tom he's wrong? i think your puppet strings are a lil too tight kiddo

and before anybody comes and trys to argue with me, study up on your own beliefs, cause i guarantee you know nothing beyond what you've been told by your churches, you know nothing about how your religion was created and changed. until you study up, i won't even waste time arguing with you cause you're ignoring reality and rational thought

[Subsist]

christianity has been changed and corrupted , islam hasnt.

[Subsist]

and my country blocks porn and hacking websites you call that preventing me of having a chance of forming my own opinion you can such my dick you and your believes. Its a fact that the media at YOUR place make you believe we are a primitive country, but infact were not. I do have proxys that bypass the bans , I do have access to all the banned movies and articles and all that crap , I do have knowledge of my own religion more than you dude. You're just hanging on to every little thing and every little idea you findjust so you wouldnt believe in this shit and have to be prohibited on some of the pleasures of life , drinking fucking and all that. I mean , this guy plex is ready to not follow any religion just cause he thinks the theory of fuckin evolution contradicts with religion , and the funny thing is he doesnt even know what the fuck the theory of evolution is. You wanna throw a fossil at me? Plex im ready to fuckin dig all earth and get you all the fossils possible if you can prove to me right now that fossils actually prove evolution is true. I cant believe you're sticking to a theory which was suggested way before even DNA was discovered how fuckin dumb is that.

[8th]

Christianity has been changed and corrupted , islam hasnt.

are you joking? So osama bin laden, and others haven't perverted islam into the religion of intolerance that they make it out to be? I like to think that 90% of muslims are good, peaceful people. And inorder for me to believe that, my belief is that the islamofacists [terrorists if you like that term better] have perverted islam into a deathcult. So how is it that islam has not been changed?


and all killah, Believe what ever you want, and so will I. The reason i cant stand alot of atheists is that they think all religious people are stupid, and that they are superior. I know what I believe, and your tirade against religion could not even come close to 'disproving' my faith. Its called FAITH. If you dont have faith, you dont have it. It however does not make me 'a fucking retard' because I believe in God. I dont think your a retard for not. Why do atheists have to have this attitude that they must 'pity' 'stupid religious people' and look down on them. thats not very tooolerant.

[complexity]

I never said that evolution is the only reason. (its been proving a million times) I'm not a
scientist I can't give you the exact evidence. If I could I would.

8th believes that evolution goes along with religion. Thats cool as well.
A lot of people do.

And I wish I could have a stronger faith. Its not that easy though. When dealing with facts
over beliefs.

I do completely agree with 8ths final statement about atheists who
try to seem superior. Though you have to take into a account
that they are outcasted. Outside of this forum we probably couldn't
cast our views and not be judged and looked down on because of them.

I surely don't feel superior. When society doesn't accept my views.

[drunken jesus]

Subsist islam has been changed and manipulated almost as much as christianity DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH, like i said DON"T ARGUE SHIT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT... YOU MAKE YOURSELF LOOK LIKE AN IGNORANT FOOL.

and 8th i'm not an athiest btw, and you completely avoided EVERYTHING i said. i implyed i'm smarter, yeah. but i gave you reasons why i don't believe in religion, and you gave no reasons on why you believe besides faith, but faith in what? do you know how corrupt and manipulated the bible has been? i can understand believing in god, but i can't understand someone believing in organized religion with all its contradictions, flaws, and manipulations

there's nothing wrong with having faith, but how are you going to think i'm an idiot for not believing in religion when i gave you all the reasons. religion is accepted cause its the popular consensus and there's no way to disprove it, and no way to prove it, kinda similar to aliens, they could exist but nobody can prove it, but they can't disprove it so everybodys left in limbo and generally think they don't exist cause its what most people think.

RELIGION IS GOOD FOR SOCIETY, if you don't take it literally and just follow the morals it provides. when people think their religions the shit and leaders use their religion to influence people into being brainwashed, its not good at all and thats why more people in history have died from religion related events more than any other cause.

religion is a tool of society and those in power to attempt to keep you in line and easy to manipulate. its kinda like santa claus, parents tell their kids santa won't bring them stuff unless they behave. religions a perfect parallel of that, religions tell them they won't go to heaven unless they behave. to get them to behave better.