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Post by |.R.SON.aLL.| »

i`ma Juss Be Straight & Forward ..
i Haven`t Loss a Battle Since i Been Back ..
So Don`t Say i`m Bitchin` ..

But Tha Votin` Format is Strictly ass ..
Like Fa`Real ..
How Tha Fuck Can U Judge a Battle On Juss Three Cats ??..
Punches, Personals, & Flow ??..
Flow isn`t Really That important in Textin` anyways ..
if U Had to Pick Three Cats ...
Why Not Let it Be ..

Punches, Personals, & Creativity ??..
Like That Makes More Sense Than Tha Other 3 ..

Tha Votin` Format Should Have More Cats ..
Like Wordplay, Who Had a More Complex appeal, Nameplay, Multies(Which Would Follow Under Flow in a Way) ..
Creativity, & Entertainment .. Wit Tha Other 3 ...
We Should Change it ..
Other Sites Will Look at This One Like a Joke `cus They Think We Only Think That Those 3 Cats are Wat is Most important in a Text Battle ..

Basically Tha Cats Should Be :

Punches - Whoeva Hits Tha Hardest, & Comes Wit Tha More Creative Ones ..
Personals - Who Has Tha Most Dirtiest Shit On The Person They Battlin` ..
Wordplay - Who Can Flip & Break Up Words Wit More Cleverness ..
Multies - Who Can Tie Words Together Tha Smoothest ..
Creativity - Who Thinks Outside Of Tha Box More ..
Nameplay - Who Can Flip Tha Hell Out Of Someone`s Name On Them ..
Orginality - Who Brings Life to New Concepts & Wat Tha Creativity Factor Offers ..
Entertainment - Who Embrasses Tha Hell Out Of Somebody & Make Jokes Out Of Them ..

^^ .. Basically it Right There ..
it`s More Detailed ..
& U Won`t Have to Worry about ass Votes ..
Because it Has to Be Explained ..

Then Choose Tha Best Bars Outta Both Verses ..
& Why That Person Won IYO ..
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Post by -TraMaTiK- »

i agree wit rell^ im on another site called Rap Royalty..and theres mad battles n shit goin down there..i only battled once there but there strict with voting like how rell explained it,so i think it wud be good for illest 2 do this as well
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Post by Momeijah »

Well Think About it This Way,

Personals is a Cool Cat When They're Making Good Use Of Em And Not Just Listing Them Out Like They Donno What a Punch is, That's Basically The Same as a 'Who Wrote The Longest Bars' Cat, it's irrelevant On it's Own, BETTER Personals as in Who Used Them Better - Not Who Had More - Would Be Good.

Wordplay Well, i For One Ain't Really Bothered About Wordplay, i Don't Use it Often And a Lot More Don't, So i Don't See How That Should Be a Permanent Cat. Usually in a Battle There Will Be a Wordplay So it's Aright To an Extent.

Nameplay is The Same, if The Rules Are That u HAVE To Vote By These Cats Then What Happens if None Of Em Use Nameplays? Doesn't Usually Happen But it Has Done, With The More inexperienced Battlers.

Punches (in a Battle) Should Be Tied With Personals, if u Can Make a Good Punch it's All Good But if it Has Nothing To Do With ur Opponent Then it's Just Another Filler Line. i Don't Mind it Being a Cat Though Because in a Battle With Two People Who Don't Know a Thing About Each Other They're Just Gnna Use Some Unpersonal Punches.

i Agree With Multis Being There, We All Know That Rapping (Battling Or Not) Relies a Lot On Rhyming And if One Guy Ain't Rhyme Well Then it Should Be Held Against Him in The Voting.

The Other Cats Are Cool, i Donno Why People Always Bitch About The Entertainment Cat Since a Boring Verse is Hardly Gnna Make Someone Go 'OOH Shit He Killed Him!', Entertainment Just Comes With Personals/Punches/Multis, Whoever's Got The Best Ones Get That Cat is Basically it, Whichever One u Enjoy Reading More. if Someone Ain't Enjoy it Then They Most Likely Ain't Feelin it - Making it Most Likely That They're Gnna Vote Against Them.

So Yeah, i Wouldn't Make Wordplay Something u NEEDED To Judge On.
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Post by Momeijah »

Alternative Method - Use All Those Cats But Have a 'Neither' Option.

But Ppl Would Get Kinda Sick at Having To Vote On ALL Those Cats Every Battle.

Either Way is Pretty Harmless, id Prefer Just The Few Essential Cats And The Extras That u Don't NEED To Judge On.
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Post by |.R.SON.aLL.| »

i Think Wordplay is Juss as important as Tha Other Cats ..
Wordplay Punches are More Creative ..
Than Juss Plain Personal Punches ..

anyways i Think There Should Be Two Types Of Votin` Formats ..
Since U Made alot Of Other Points ..

Rookie Format & Elite Format ..

Rookie :

Personals
Punches
Multies
& Entertainment ..

Elite :

Personals
Punches
Multies
Wordplay/Nameplay
Creativity
Orginality
& Entertainment ..
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Post by drunken jesus »

ekoms changed the catagories when i told him that punchlines were more important than multis

realistically when people use more than 5 categories they're redudant

ex
wordplay
-similies
-metaphors

creativity
-originality

realistically it all comes down to what the lines are and how they're worded/placed in the verse, the majority of good lines in any battle contain all wordplay(nameplay is wordplay)/&punchline(usually personal using wordplay)/*personals(see previous)/&multi(s)(this ties into how well its placed in the verse)/&creativity(if the line isn't creative it isn't good)

you can have all the categorys you want but people are just going to use them to either a. justify who they think won or b. make it seem closer than it was so the loser feels better, nobodys gonna be like "damn i think (rapper a) slightly edged out (rapper b) in the creativity category so i guess he wins with one more category" they already have the winner in mind after they read the verses

the only way more categories are gonna come in handy is with people that either write generic ass verses with punchlines that could apply to anybody(there is alotta people that do this), or people that don't write too complex (so they're severly lacking alotta elements)

the way i vote is a lines are either good, generic(i don't care how ill a line is if it can apply to anybody its not a good line), or bad, and a verse is structured & worded either good, decent, or terrible, so whoever has the better verse judging all the elements is the winner
Respect this, specialist, black, testing this and get ya necklace jacked
Your after name scratched up off my guestlist, party freak
You the type of nigga that'll hardly speak unless you spoken to
You throw a cold screw but sober up when I'm approaching you
At the same time we postin two niggaz on that ass
Thats gonna do what they supposed to do the limelight
Snatched away from you because its my night
Killarm' blaze hotter than twilight, you better get ya lines right
Half of these crabs cant even rhyme right
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Post by Kurse »

Shit...it's already hard enough to get sum of these kats on the site to vote with 3 categories...adding anymore are just gonna make it even harder for them and confuse their little brains. As much as what Rell's sayin makes sense to us...it's still because of the fact that our votes tend to be more detailed. Like Mine, Dom's, Plex's, Tramatiks, Symbolikulls, DJ's, Rh1no's, HQ's (sometimes) and that about sum's it up for the most part. But also we all get tied up with other shit which leaves it hard for us to drop our 2-cents in on every battle. So we leave some of the supposed faithful voting to alot of the newbs and shit. But there've been a few newbs that've shown to be real steady battlers. (ex: Cee4, Prophet....to name a few)

I dunno. Good idea...but it's not an idea that hasn't been tried before. We wanna encourage some of these guys to be more active on the voting end as it is...adding more shit to vote on I think just kinda discourages votes a little bit. (as much as that sucks) Too much laziness I guess.
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Post by 16 Micz »

why df do you homos type essays, when most of us have the attention span of gold fish.
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Post by Viral »

16 Micz wrote:why df do you homos type essays, when most of us have the attention span of gold fish.

lol yeah i was readin like the first to sentences...n im like...ahhh fuck dis!...hahahha
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Post by ~Symbolikull~ »

did the same^^^ lol
i'll smack yuh with rage i force multis outta my ass to the page
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